{"id":5250,"date":"2015-04-13T19:50:52","date_gmt":"2015-04-14T00:50:52","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/?p=5250"},"modified":"2015-04-13T19:51:33","modified_gmt":"2015-04-14T00:51:33","slug":"live-two-contradictory-linkedin-discussions-on-risk-based-thinking","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/live-two-contradictory-linkedin-discussions-on-risk-based-thinking\/","title":{"rendered":"LIVE: Two Contradictory LinkedIn Discussions on Risk-Based Thinking"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright  wp-image-5251\" src=\"http:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/04\/slapfight.jpeg\" alt=\"slapfight\" width=\"304\" height=\"203\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/04\/slapfight.jpeg 350w, https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/04\/slapfight-150x100.jpeg 150w, https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/04\/slapfight-200x134.jpeg 200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 304px) 100vw, 304px\" \/>Catch these LinkedIn discussions quick, before they get shut down since they are likely to turn into a flame war soon enough.<\/p>\n<p>In the first (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/groupItem?view=&amp;gid=3633&amp;type=member&amp;item=5993078112580022274\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>), Dan Nelson argues that risk-based thinking is as easy as driving a car, which is a step up from his last work which said it was as easy as playing pool. (May require joining the ASQ discussion forum.)<\/p>\n<p>In\u00a0the next one (<a href=\"https:\/\/lnkd.in\/eN-Kxfh\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>), trainer-to-the-registrars Dan Brown claims the opposite, that risk-based thinking requires full blown risk management, with assessments and mitigation plans and all that. Watch how Brown just gives a big middle finger to TC 176 by saying his view trumps theirs!<\/p>\n<p>Both are passionate and utterly convinced they are right, even though they completely contradict each other. Imagine the fun if a client of Nelson&#8217;s consulting business was then audited by someone\u00a0trained by Brown. The resulting nonconformities would not be paid for by either Nelson or Brown, but by the poor client who&#8217;d be stuck in the middle.<\/p>\n<p>This is a great way to watch the two camps form: the first is the &#8220;RBT is easy&#8221; camp which includes TC 176. This camp insists that RBT is as easy as crossing the street, and it&#8217;s something we do every day. To make that argument, they have to ignore the fact that people are audited and certified for crossing streets.<\/p>\n<p>The next camp is the &#8220;RBT is full risk management&#8221; which is mostly made up of (guess) people selling traditional risk management seminars, courses, books and software.<\/p>\n<p>What a train wreck!<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Catch these LinkedIn discussions quick, before they get shut down since they are likely to turn into a flame war soon enough. In the first (here), Dan Nelson argues that risk-based thinking is as easy as driving a car, which is a step up from his last work which said it was as easy as [&hellip;]<\/p>","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":5251,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_et_pb_use_builder":"","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","mc4wp_mailchimp_campaign":[],"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5250","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-opinion","et-has-post-format-content","et_post_format-et-post-format-standard"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5250","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5250"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5250\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":5252,"href":"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5250\/revisions\/5252"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/5251"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5250"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5250"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5250"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}