{"id":30260,"date":"2024-05-09T12:03:43","date_gmt":"2024-05-09T16:03:43","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/?p=30260"},"modified":"2024-05-09T13:20:07","modified_gmt":"2024-05-09T17:20:07","slug":"iso-9001-auditor-comes-up-with-stupidest-finding-ever","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/iso-9001-auditor-comes-up-with-stupidest-finding-ever\/","title":{"rendered":"ISO 9001 Auditor Comes Up With Stupidest Finding Ever"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In the history of dumb auditor findings, this has to be the dumbest.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright  wp-image-1970\" src=\"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/fester.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"213\" height=\"263\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/fester.jpg 288w, https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/09\/fester-121x150.jpg 121w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 213px) 100vw, 213px\" \/>Over at the Oxebridge <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/feed\/update\/urn:li:activity:7191556548622532612?utm_source=share&amp;utm_medium=member_desktop\">ISO 9001 LinkedIn Group<\/a>, member Steve Hill revealed that one of his ISO 9001 consultants was hit with a whopper of a stupid nonconformity:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>[Nonconformity] raised as the clients are excluding design and development as they do not design or develop products but they do design and develop the QMS and its processes.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Sweet Jesus, that&#8217;s a whole new level of stupid. If I put that in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.oxebridge\/com\/the-auditor\"><strong>THE AUDITOR<\/strong><\/a> comic strip, you&#8217;d never believe it actually happened.<\/p>\n<p>So, according to this window-licker auditor, nobody anywhere can <em><strong>ever<\/strong> <\/em>exclude 8.3 because he says it&#8217;s relevant to the design of the QMS itself. In order to reach this conclusion, our intrepid, drooling pencil-eater has to undergo the following mental gymnastics:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">First, he&#8217;s gotta just ignore the entire history of ISO 9001, going back to 1987. You see, ISO understood that you could exclude design even if you had a QMS, and they actually published <em><strong>two whole standards<\/strong><\/em> &#8212; ISO 9002 and ISO 9003 &#8211;allowing companies to do just that.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">Next, he must entirely ignore the frigging title of the clause: <em>8.3 Design and Development of<\/em> <em><strong>Products and Services<\/strong><\/em>. You see, it&#8217;s right there in the name: this isn&#8217;t about designing your QMS, it&#8217;s about designing the stuff you <em><strong>sell<\/strong><\/em>. And nobody sells their own QMS as a product or service.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">Next (oh, there&#8217;s more), this shidiot then has to realize that if ISO meant for the design of the QMS itself to be a thing, it would have included it in the QMS &#8220;Planning&#8221; clauses (per PDCA) of 4 through 7. In fact, it would likely literally go <em><strong>into<\/strong> <\/em>Clause 6.0 Planning. Clause 8 &#8212; which is where 8.3 resides, something this moron didn&#8217;t realize &#8212; is about &#8220;Operation&#8221; and is the &#8220;Do&#8221; part of PDCA. By the time you get to clause 8, ISO assumes the QMS is <em><strong>already <\/strong><\/em>designed, and now you&#8217;re actually using it. (Clauses 9 and 10 are then &#8220;Check&#8221; and &#8220;Act&#8221;, respectively.)<\/p>\n<p>Steve rightfully questions whether &#8220;<em>the CB read his report before sending it as surely they would&#8217;ve corrected it<\/em>.&#8221; The short answer is, <em><strong>of course not.<\/strong> <\/em>The CBs have one job, and they can&#8217;t be bothered to actually do it. So they let auditors like this neolithic numbnut run around wild, without anyone checking their work.<\/p>\n<p>And, oh my God, am I hoping this auditor is reading this right now. Because, yeah, <em><strong>this is about you.<\/strong><\/em> You&#8217;re so stupid, you&#8217;re a danger to yourself and others. Here&#8217;s my advice, Mr. Auditor: find another line of work more suited to your skillset. Maybe spinning signs outside Liberty Insurance or cleaning shoes at a bowling alley. But you need to quit auditing entirely, and right now, because at this rate you are going to kill yourself the next time you try to put on a pair of safety glasses. I also suggest you lock yourself in a room and chain yourself to the bedpost like Lon Chaney Jr. in <em>The Wolfman<\/em>, because &#8212; yeah &#8212; you can&#8217;t fix stupid, but you can sure help protect the rest of us from it.<\/p>\n<p>Great auditor training, Exemplar and IRCA! I guess the check cleared, so you just printed this guy his Lead Auditor cert. I&#8217;m frankly surprised he didn&#8217;t papercut his eyelids with it.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>An ISO 9001 auditor comes up with a new way to reduce the IQ of the entire planet in one stroke.<\/p>","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":30262,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_et_pb_use_builder":"","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","mc4wp_mailchimp_campaign":[],"footnotes":""},"categories":[157],"tags":[294,23,14],"class_list":["post-30260","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-humor-2","tag-auditor","tag-certification-bodies","tag-iso-9001","et-has-post-format-content","et_post_format-et-post-format-standard"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/30260","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=30260"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/30260\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":30265,"href":"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/30260\/revisions\/30265"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/30262"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=30260"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=30260"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=30260"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}