{"id":28783,"date":"2023-06-23T10:19:59","date_gmt":"2023-06-23T14:19:59","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/?p=28783"},"modified":"2023-06-23T10:19:59","modified_gmt":"2023-06-23T14:19:59","slug":"iso-abandons-decade-long-attempt-to-create-single-definition-of-risk","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/iso-abandons-decade-long-attempt-to-create-single-definition-of-risk\/","title":{"rendered":"ISO Abandons Decade-Long Attempt to Create Single Definition of &#8220;Risk&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>As reported previously &#8212; all the way <a href=\"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/dis-of-iso-9001introduces-a-fifth-definition-of-risk\/\">back in 2014<\/a> &#8212; ISO has struggled to come up with a single definition of the term &#8220;risk.&#8221; At that time, ISO had at least 40 (as in forty) definitions of the term spread out over 140 (as in one-hundred-and-forty) standards. The problem was ignored for decades until two standards decided to fight each other: ISO&#8217;s flagship standard ISO 9001 and its (then) newer risk management standard, ISO 31000.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><strong>The &#8220;Risk&#8221; of Silos<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>There is one truism in ISOworld: different technical committees, each responsible for developing their particular standard, <em><strong>hate each other.<\/strong><\/em> And the TC for ISO 31000 was not well-liked by anyone, much less the TC for ISO 9001.<\/p>\n<p>The ISO 31000 group itself grew out of a fairly complicated set of controversies (I won&#8217;t rehash it here, but I have a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=v576GO5Mx-Q\">YouTube video<\/a> going over the whole thing.) Newly minted and blessed by ISO HQ, the group was flush with power, smug as can be, and headed by an incompetent, bumbling <a href=\"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/kevin-knight-steps-down-from-iso-tc-262-risk-management-chair-position\/\">toady<\/a> who could barely bathe, never mind run a committee.<\/p>\n<p>Not to be outdone on the ego front, the ISO 9001 folks had prior <em><strong>decades<\/strong> <\/em>to hone their hubris, so were not about to be told what to do by some new upstart, no matter how new and shiny they looked.<\/p>\n<p>So the two TCs started to fight, somewhat publicly, over whose definition of risk was better, which brought the whole thing into the public eye &#8212; not helped by the fact that while the &#8220;quality&#8221; press ignored the debacle, Oxebridge was reporting on it in real-time. You&#8217;re welcome.<\/p>\n<p>Over the next nine years, many TCs would just adopt ISO 31000&#8217;s definition, and the overall number of &#8220;risk&#8221; definitions in ISO&#8217;s catalog decreased but still generated a good deal of controversy. The remaining conflict was largely due to the fact that the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/tc-262-chair-kevin-knight-goes-back-to-promoting-g31000-sets-fire-to-own-legacy\/\">bumbling unwashed toady<\/a> had cribbed an already-controversial definition of &#8220;risk&#8221; from the Project Management Institute (PMI), which claimed that &#8220;<em>risk is positive<\/em>.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><strong>No, Risk Isn&#8217;t Positive, You Dummies<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Now let&#8217;s pause on that for a second, because <a href=\"https:\/\/www.planetclaire.tv\/quotes\/firefly\/season-one\/the-train-job\/\">I got words<\/a>. Until that time, most people with functioning goo in their brainpans understood that &#8220;risk&#8221; was something you either avoided or mitigated. You want to <em><strong>take<\/strong> <\/em>risk, sure, but you do so with your glutes clenched in the hope you can squeak out a benefit and not have disaster strike. The risk is bad, but it has the potential for a benefit &#8212; an opportunity, if you will &#8212; if you can manage it properly.<\/p>\n<p>This negative definition of risk also happens to align with the English <em><strong>dictionary<\/strong><\/em>, as well as that of nearly every other language ever spoken by man-apes. risk has always been understood as something bad that you have to manage or push through in order to get to the good stuff.<\/p>\n<p>Now, thanks to Mr. Beardtoad and PMI, risk was &#8220;good.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>This never made sense, because in the same standards that insisted &#8220;<em><strong>risk is good<\/strong><\/em>,&#8221; they were telling you to <em><strong>mitigate<\/strong> <\/em>it. You don&#8217;t mitigate good things, you mitigate <em><strong>bad<\/strong> <\/em>things. Saying otherwise is like telling the High School football team to &#8220;<em>get out there and work your darnedest to lose the big game!<\/em>&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>But because so many ISO standards users just parrot whatever ISO tells them, we now have an entire generation of folks insisting &#8220;<em>risk is good<\/em>,&#8221; and promptly <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cnn.com\/americas\/live-news\/titanic-missing-sub-oceangate-06-22-23\/index.html\">blowing shit up and killing people<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>OK, I&#8217;m off my soapbox.<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">Enter the Goons<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A lot of people started to push back on ISO&#8217;s wrong-headed attempt to adopt a single, acceptable definition of &#8220;risk.&#8221; This was especially true since different industries have different ideas on risk, and standardizing &#8220;risk management&#8221; was a dumb plot to begin with. Insurance actuaries have a very different view of risk than, say, manufacturing engineers, and they all disagree with the notions of pharmaceutical companies. Heck, the definition changes depending on your <em><strong>income level<\/strong><\/em>: an hourly worker at Tesla has a very different idea of risk than their idiot, billionaire boss does. The ability to afford lawyers does that.<\/p>\n<p>In reality, &#8220;risk&#8221; can take on dramatically different meanings depending on which angle you&#8217;re looking at it from.<\/p>\n<p>So ISO was <em><strong>always going to fail<\/strong> <\/em>in this, and folks like me were telling them that for nearly a decade. But the consultants running around bragging about &#8220;<em>being on an ISO committee<\/em>&#8221; were not to be deterred, and kept at it. The rest of us were watching them like the scientist standing over the mouse-maze, watching the poor creatures scramble to find an exit before the gas kicked in.<\/p>\n<p>A lot of (metaphorical) blood was spilled, too. Within the ISO 31000 TC itself, the members couldn&#8217;t agree, and during one official meeting, the delegates <a href=\"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/the-bruno-effect\/\">devolved<\/a> into a shouting match, threatening to sue each other for defamation. It was a complete shit-show, and was unraveling in front of the entire world.<\/p>\n<p>So ISO&#8217;s goon squad, the Technical Management Board (TMB), put a team on it. They created a joint task force with the intent of finally using their brute muscle to force everyone to use a single definition, preferably that from ISO 31000. I presume they had uniforms with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pinterest.com\/pin\/costumes-and-cosplay--490540584389378179\/\">scary black jodhpurs<\/a> and menacing red logos on the chest.<\/p>\n<p>But even the goon squad couldn&#8217;t re-write reality, because &#8212; again &#8212; trying to standardize &#8220;risk&#8221; was as stupid as trying to standardize &#8220;<i>schadenfreude<\/i>.&#8221; You cannot standardize concepts that have multiple definitions and interpretations depending on the scenarios. (Look up the word &#8220;<em>set<\/em>&#8221; and see <a href=\"https:\/\/www.vernonmorningstar.com\/news\/morning-start-the-english-word-with-the-most-definitions-is-set\/#:~:text=According%20to%20Guinness%20World%20Records,which%20was%20published%20in%201989.\">how many definitions the dictionary has for it<\/a>.)<\/p>\n<p>So the TMB has been forced to surrender, and has now issued a final Resolution, announcing that they are abandoning tilting at this particular windmill, and will now allow TCs to make up their own definitions for &#8220;risk&#8221; whenever they like:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/tmbresolutionrisk.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-28785\" style=\"border: 1px solid #000000;\" src=\"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/tmbresolutionrisk.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"625\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/tmbresolutionrisk.png 961w, https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/tmbresolutionrisk-144x150.png 144w, https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/06\/tmbresolutionrisk-768x800.png 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>So, this particular drama is now over, but don&#8217;t fret, masochists! ISO is currently cooking up some other mind-bogglingly bad ideas that will keep you up at night, like <a href=\"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/iso-9001-to-be-released-under-subscription-plan-undergo-perpetual-updates\/\">converting standards to expensive online-only subscription services<\/a>, rather than selling them as downloadable PDFs.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>ISO is forced to admit that despite its name, it can&#8217;t really &#8220;standardize&#8221; things.<\/p>","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":28787,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_et_pb_use_builder":"","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","mc4wp_mailchimp_campaign":[],"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[43,186,14,147,148,42,412,200],"class_list":["post-28783","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-opinion","tag-iso","tag-iso-31000","tag-iso-9001","tag-risk","tag-risk-management","tag-tc-176","tag-tc-262","tag-tmb","et-has-post-format-content","et_post_format-et-post-format-standard"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/28783","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=28783"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/28783\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":28788,"href":"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/28783\/revisions\/28788"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/28787"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=28783"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=28783"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=28783"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}