{"id":1374,"date":"2013-03-11T21:40:37","date_gmt":"2013-03-12T01:40:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/?p=1374"},"modified":"2013-03-11T21:40:37","modified_gmt":"2013-03-12T01:40:37","slug":"anab-was-right-and-i-was-wrong","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/anab-was-right-and-i-was-wrong\/","title":{"rendered":"ANAB Was Right&#8230; and I Was Wrong"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/eat-crow1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-1380\" title=\"eat-crow1\" src=\"http:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/eat-crow1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"185\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/eat-crow1.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/eat-crow1-150x69.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><\/a>I am not above eating crow, but generally do so only under two conditions: when I am proven wrong, and have to face up to it, or when I am really, really hungry and those crows are mocking me, so they deserve it, the bastards.<\/p>\n<p>In this case, it&#8217;s the former. I recently got into a heated telephone conversation with two representatives of ANAB &#8212;\u00a0<span style=\"font-size: 1em; line-height: 1.5em;\">Business Development Specialist Kevin Dennis, and Director of Sales and Marketing Roger Muse &#8212; over <a href=\"http:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/?p=1356\">SN900<\/a>1, the snow and ice management industry&#8217;s take on ISO 9001. I was making the point that SN9001 represents a dilution of the value and validity of ISO 9001, as it puts us on the &#8220;ice cream shop&#8221; path towards a &#8220;flavor of the month&#8221; model of ISO 9001. I indignantly quoted (as I often do) the ISO TC 176 mandate to &#8220;reduce the\u00a0<\/span>proliferation<span style=\"font-size: 1em; line-height: 1.5em;\">\u00a0of sector specific standards,&#8221; because ISO intended that 9001 apply to all industries. When I first wrote about SN9001, I called it &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/?p=996\">industry self-cannibalization<\/a>.&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1381\" style=\"width: 190px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/robocop813-final.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1381\" class=\" wp-image-1381 \" title=\"robocop813-final\" src=\"http:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/robocop813-final-e1362685632367-300x273.jpg\" alt=\"Robocop\" width=\"180\" height=\"164\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1381\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">BA9000 Spokesperson<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Well, the ISO 9001 world is still feasting on its own feet, but I made a pretty big error when arguing with ANAB. Mr. Muse mentioned that Sn9001 was no different from &#8220;Kevlar\u00a0standards,&#8221; and I went ballistic (pardon the pun) reminding him that Kevlar standards are <em>product<\/em> certifications, and SN9001 is a <em>QMS<\/em> standard. Mr. Muse said that I needed to &#8220;get more\u00a0training\u00a0on standards&#8221; which is like telling a bear he needs sharper teeth, so the rest of the conversation just declined from there. If they ever make a film version of the phone call, it will feature a guy named <a href=\"http:\/\/www.imdb.com\/character\/ch0004588\/\">Leatherface<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s the thing: <em><strong>he&#8217;s right.<\/strong> <\/em>Whereas I was stuck in the mental loop of thinking he was referring to\u00a0Kevlar\u00a0<em>product<\/em> standards, typically used in textile industries and having to do with tensile strengths and all sorts of geeky tech nonsense, Mr. Muse was actually talking about something called <a href=\"https:\/\/www.justnet.org\/pdf\/BA-9000-January-2012.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">BA9000<\/a> &#8212; a body armor QMS certification for which ANAB offers accreditation.<\/p>\n<p>But the thing is, I never heard of BA9000. In my defense, apparently no one else has either, since ANAB doesn&#8217;t actually list any BA9000 accredited registrars*, but still Mr. Muse and I were not talking apples and oranges. <em><strong>He really was talking about yet another sector-specific variant to ISO 9001!<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>Mmm, this crow is great. Please pass the\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.wine-searcher.com\/wine-44036-0001-f-e-trimbach-gewurztraminer-alsace-france\" target=\"_blank\">Gewurztraminer<\/a>.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1379\" style=\"width: 356px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/IOTBS.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1379\" class=\" wp-image-1379  \" title=\"IOTBS\" src=\"http:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/IOTBS.jpg\" alt=\"Invasion of the ISO Snatchers\" width=\"346\" height=\"267\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/IOTBS.jpg 432w, https:\/\/www.oxebridge.com\/emma\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/IOTBS-150x116.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 346px) 100vw, 346px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1379\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">&#8220;They&#8217;re here already! You&#8217;re next! You&#8217;re next!&#8221;<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Now this leaves me in a doubly-troubling position. First, I have to admit I was wrong. That&#8217;s manageable. But worse, I have to admit that the invasion of the ISO-snatchers is far, far more advanced than I thought. There are so many sector variants of ISO 9001, I can&#8217;t even keep up, and <em>I do this for a living!<\/em><\/p>\n<p>But let&#8217;s not sully up a good apology with excuses. I&#8217;m not a politician, after all.<\/p>\n<p>So, Mr. Dennis and Mr. Muse, I apologize. You were right to compare SN9001 to BA9000, and I should have known what you were talking about instead of assuming you were stretching facts to support ANAB.<\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s a Buddhist proverb that says if we see an object in the road, thinking it&#8217;s a snake, before we freak out we should probably first check to make sure it&#8217;s not just a stick, \u00a0so we don&#8217;t waste a lot of calories. Or something like that.<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;-<\/p>\n<p><em>\u00a0(* Perry Johnson Registrars has an <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pjr.com\/standards\/ba-9000\" target=\"_blank\">out of date page on BA9000<\/a>, but it&#8217;s not actually clear if they offer the service. They are not listed as accredited for BA9000 by ANAB.)<\/em><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I am not above eating crow, but generally do so only under two conditions: when I am proven wrong, and have to face up to it, or when I am really, really hungry and those crows are mocking me, so they deserve it, the bastards. In this case, it&#8217;s the former. 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