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12 October, 2018 - 6:36 PM
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Glad to be part of this forum.  I have been following Oxebridge.com for several years.  I am hoping to I can learn more from this site, and hopefully contribute to any questions that are asked.  I have been in QA for a very, very, very long time 🙂

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Just thought I'd let you have some background.  I started out as a mechanical engineering apprentice in the UK in the days that Disco dancing was the norm.  After graduation I went into Machine Tool Design but resulting from a deluge of job losses and layoffs within the company, I moved into an open position as an assistant quality engineer at the same company.  I've been with them for 42 years in total.  From those early days in QA, when every Automotive customer had their own system, to the eventual adoption of BS5750, I moved into "team oriented" new product introduction for our Japanese Customers, where we became very successful in manufacturing Japanese blue print designs, and selling our products to the Japanese customers instead of importing them from Japan.  Humble beginnings.  I transferred into other roles within the company, Continuous Improvement, Project Management, Health & Safety, but due to my automotive experience, I went back into a QA role when I moved to the USA.  Since then, I have been involved in Aerospace and Medical QMS systems.  My preference is to run a mile from anything related to Medical.  The QMS standards have changed over the years, as many of you know.  I'm probably a little old-fashioned, but I thought BS 5750 was clear in what was needed, even the 1994 standard was sort of acceptable.  Todays 2015 versions of ISO/AS?TS etc leave me somewhat baffled.  There is much emphasis on risk management, and metrics, a lot of grey areas that are a constant source of argument and re-interpretation, instead of getting down to doing what is right...make stuff that doesn't come back etc.  Anyway, enough of that.  I'm still in QA and still trying to make sure we do the right thing.  Hope you enjoy reading Smile

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The old MIL-Q-9858 standard and the 1987 version of ISO 9001 were elegant, simple, and short. But they didn't make much money for ISO nor the army of consultants who support it, so they had to turn it into a monstrosity of complexity that requires you to buy consulting services to decipher it. It's a shame.

And overall, the evidence shows that neither the standard nor the certifications on their own result in any improvement in quality. It's still up to the company to develop a meaningful QMS. The only thing the certifications do now is help you get contracts; that's not a bad thing, but it runs counter to ISO's marketing.

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