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So we’ve recently acquired a small company that is an extension of one of our shops. It’s a small operation and not formal in anyway. We recently obtained our AS9110 Cert, and so, looking forward to our surveillance audit in about 10 months. Will the acquired company be audited with the same scrutiny as our home base? With only 10 months to mature and assimilate the mom& pop shop into our model is going to be difficult to say the least? Any ideas of how our auditors will audit our new addition?
The auditors are going to focus heavily on the new addition, unfortunately. You will have to ensure they are bulletproof before the audit. Auditors always fixate on anything new, and in this case they do have a justification: they can’t issue your cert if you have an entire area of the company that isn’t fully compliant. They are even likely to add a day or so to the audit to accommodate extra time for the new area.
The alternative is to have the new company get its own certificate later, and keep them off of the scope of the current company. Then the new company can take its time getting ISO implemented. The downside is that it is expensive: you are paying for twice the audits, and twice the certifications. But if either company gets hit with a major nonconformity, it doesn’t affect the other.
Hey Chris, so we’re going around the mountain again… We got our Titusville (TIX) site certified to AS9110 C (transition and re-cert audit) last year (single site). But, ended up not doing a surveillance audit at the other location in Miami (MIA) (also single site as you suggested). Now our mgmt team is considering dropping AS all together and certifying only to ISO 9110:2015. AS hasn’t gained us any new business and our customers only ask about ISO. So, major cost savings. Any thoughts on that? Also, I’ve been asked to put some charts together to justify their desire to drop AS. One statistic I’m looking for is the number of AS certified companies that have decided not to re-certify to AS91XX:2016. OASIS shows 663 currently, but was wondering if any one has data from say, 2017 or 2016? To see if there is a downward trend in the number of companies that have decided to drop the AS cert. Any help is greatly appreciated.
No one has any trend data on AS9100 other than IAQG and they’re not sharing (that I know of.) I should have started taking snapshots ever year to compose my own data, but never thought of it. So I don’t know.
A lot of companies were in the same boat. A client of mine in Orlando had AS for years in the hopes it would generate some business, and it never did, so they dumped it. About 10 other clients of mine around the country did the same. At this point I tell companies to pursue AS9100 only when the customer demands it, or if they are selling to an aero prime (because eventually the prime will demand it anyway.)
ISO 9001 is a bit cheaper – no annual OASIS fee, and the possibility of slightly shorter audits — so it’s probably worth considering dropping AS in your case. You can always toggle it back on later if someone screams.